Now you can post a free listing on Oodle. When Oodle first came out you could not post to their site, but now it appears you now can post in multiple places – so it appears that Oodle is becoming more and more of a competitor for the sites like rentals.com and my site.

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Walmart and Oodle Partner Up

I think I have the answer after I experienced the two sites from a renter’s perspective.

Oodle Shows A Ton Of Info About My Listing

RentBits Shows a Little Bit of Info:

As a site owner, I want my visitors to stay on my site for as long as possible for a number of reasons. One reason is Google looks at the time spent on the site, Google gets this info from the people that have a Google Toolbar installed.

One could argue that Oodle.com is sending me more qualified traffic, but to be really honest (sorry Oodle) I really don’t care, I want them to stay longer. If they stay on my site longer I get more branding.

Don’t get me wrong I enjoy the traffic that Oodle sends me and I like the people that work there, I just wish they won’t display so much info on their site as well.

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Why Oodle Visitors Spend Less Time Than RentBit Visitors

Oodle.com still sends me more traffic than rentBits.com (but it appears that rentbits is catching up).

But the number on the right is the time spent on the site, for some reason rentbits.com visitors to my site spend a lot longer than Ooddle.com visitors.

These numbers are averaged over the past 30 days with many visitors.

No idea why.

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RentBits.com Verses Oodle.com

Sounds like they have done a lot of research and focus groups before they started the redesign.

They have a new, and very cool, area called Oodle Insight that let the renter know if the house they are looking at it above or below market value.

I am amazed how many new listings a day they get – 500K a day!

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Oodle.com Updates Their Site

I gotta think that they have a nice positive cash flow going with the contextual ads they serve.

My guess is they want to buy another site to make them bigger.

Or perhaps use that money to pay Craigslist to allow Oodle to spider Craigslist again.

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What is Oodle Going To Buy With $11 Million?

Basically Oodle scrapes other sites. What that means is they have automated spiders that go out and scrape the content from other sites like RentClicks, RentalHouses, my site, as well as free sites and then displays snippets of the rental properties on Oodle’s city listing page. When a visitor to Oodle finds a listing they like from Oodle, they get re-directed from Oodle’s site to a site such as RentClicks.

Correction: I have been informed from a RentClicks representative that RentClicks and RentalHouses is not being scraped, they are providing an XML feed directly to Oodle.

This can cause some issues because Oodle is basically making money off of other sites content and this can cause a love hate relationship with Oodle. I say love hate because a site like RentClicks probably loves the free referral traffic Oodle sends its way, but hates that someone is capitalizing off their content.

Another part of the hate relationship is bandwidth. For Oodle to provide visitors with the best user experience they need to spider a rental listing over and over again all day long to make sure if it has changed, if it has then Oodle need to update their snippet – such as the price of the rental. This aggressive spidering cost money to the rental site like RentClicks in terms of bandwidth.

Oodle makes it’s money from contextual advertising on their site similar how a rental site like HotPads makes their money.

Another question to ask is it really their (RentClicks example) content because all the information on a site like RentClicks or my site is generated from users and not from a company like mine. Of course the person placing the ad does not care who scraps their content because they want all the exposure they can get.

From a visitor’s perspective Oodle provides a very nice user experience because the visitor to Oodle can basically find all the listings in one place. This brings up the hate part of the relationship because sites like RentClicks lose out on traffic through their site where people might have clicked on banner ads on other pages before getting to the actual listing page.

Some sites do not allow Oodle to scrap their content, they block Oodle’s spiders so they can not take its content. Craigslist is one of them. Craigslist doesn’t make money from contextual advertising so Craigslist doesn’t have anything to gain from the extra traffic. Also Craigslist didn’t want to lose it’s branding image – people where asking Craigslist why their ads appeared in other places which confused their branding.

On a side note: my site is not yet currently scrapped by Oodle, I believe I have to opt-in or I just don’t have enough listings yet and they don’t care about me.

Another neat thing you can do is keep score on Oodle. To see who has the most listings just go to Oodle and type in the site you want to track in to the keyword field:

• RentalHouses 19,719
• RentClicks 12,946
• HomeRentalAds 1,086
• RentalHomesPlus 997

Correction: I have been informed from a RentClicks representative that they have 29,000 listings (wow, that’s a lot!) and RentalHouses has about 12,000. So it appears that the Oodle stats are off, which makes sense since there can be many duplicates coming from different sources.

Correction #2: I have been also informed from a RentalHomesPlus representative that they have “have significantly higher number than that” (more than the 997 shown).
RentMarketer is basically the opposite of Oodle. In a upcoming post I will cover how the RentMarketer business model works.

What are your thoughts on Oodle? Do you love it or hate it?

[tags]Oodle, scrapping sites[/tags]

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The Love Hate Relationship with Oodle