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Loren Baker said in August 11th, 2006 at 11:11 pm

Dave, it was good running into you at the bar and sounds like you had a valuable experience at SES. Hopefully you’ll run across my blog someday (like in the link on this comment box) and find some value in it as well.

Best, Loren

Adam Lasnik said in August 11th, 2006 at 11:25 pm

Hey Dave, thanks for the kind words. I’m hoping the combo of “high level” + nitty-gritty was useful overall… and I think in general you did hit upon one of the best aspects of big conferences like this: meeting people. Both folks you know from online, and also those you haven’t even heard of. Just the nonverbal cues alone can tell you volumes.

Plus all the good parties don’t hurt either 😉

Anyway, it was nice meeting you over lunch, and I’ll look forward to catching you around at another event or online. Take care…

David Besnette said in August 12th, 2006 at 10:42 am

Hey Dave,
Great writeup. I should have gone for the beer alone it sounds like. Sounds like it was a great way to put names to faces, even if you didn’t get the specific answers you were looking for.

Dave B.

Jennifer Laycock said in August 12th, 2006 at 11:27 am


I’ll also say thanks for the compliment, glad that you enjoyed the link baiting session. 😉 Also always good to read feedback from folks that have made their first trip to the conference, I’m always curious to see how the people that don’t spend every moment obsessing over algorithms view the information they get there.

A thought to consider if you attend another one down the road. You mentioned that you went to the sessions that most interested you, but that you didn’t learn a whole lot of new things. If you go again, try hitting some of the sessions that you DON’T think would interest you…then see if you can apply what you learn there to what you are already doing. You’d be surprised at how much advice you can pick up in a PPC panel that you can apply to organic search, or how a session on social networking can help influence the way you view link building or reputation management… Going outside your comfort zone is often where you end up learning the most. 😉

Cheers! – Jennifer

Loren Baker said in August 13th, 2006 at 7:10 pm

Jennifer, that’s a very good tip.

Dave Dugdale said in August 16th, 2006 at 1:21 pm

Jennifer, that is good advice. At the next conference in Vegas I will be doing just that.

I just listened to the recording of your link bait session again, and I just wanted to say thanks for all the great info, you provided a ton of great info on what makes really good link bait.

I am working on a link bait tool right now so your info is very timely for me.

Jennifer, I didn’t link to your site because I was not sure which one was your blog. If you like shoot me your blog URL and I will add it to my post above.


Dan said in August 26th, 2006 at 1:01 pm

Great Article.

Do you have more information on the PubCon in Vegas. Is that for publishers?

Dave Dugdale said in August 26th, 2006 at 1:06 pm


Here is a link to PubCon in Vegas: http://www.pubcon.com/?forum=conference

This conference is cheaper than SES and has pretty much the same people presenting. I think it is $450, but you might be able to find a discount around somewhere.

It is for anyone that has a website that wants to rank better, so yes it is for publishers.


Donald E. L. Johnson said in August 26th, 2006 at 10:03 pm

Good writeup. I considered making the conference, but busy airports keep me at home as much as possible.

What were the questions you couldn’t get answered?

Although I’ve been blogging for three years and had a message board for almost 5, I haven’t focused on SEO until the last couple of weeks.

I’m just getting into Jennifer Grappone and Gradiva Couzin’s new book, Search Engine Optimization, an hour a day. Good stuff so far. Have read it?

btw. I have a blog on HOAs and I’ll link to your blog. I’m not very active on that blog now that I’m no longer an HOA president, but may get on the board of our new HOA and revive that blog.

Maybe I’ll see you in Vegas in Nov.

Dave said in August 26th, 2006 at 10:25 pm

Donald, thanks for writing.

No have not heard of that book, I read only one SEO book about 3 years ago and by the time I finished it I felt it was already out of date, so I have been reading the forums and lately I have been reading blogs by some of the big guys in the industry. A tip you might not know about is listening to WebmasterRadio.fm, there are several good weekly shows I listen to there that keep you up to date.

I had several duplication content issues directly related to some of my sites that I wanted to get answered. I spoke with Vanessa Fox from Google and several other engineers including one guy from the crawling indexing team and they gave me very generic answers. I wish there were computers in the room and we could have looked at my site together and they could have pointed out any problems they see right away. Anyway I have made some structural changes to this site since I got back from the conference to see it it helps.

Thanks for the link to my blog! I will have a look at your site as soon as I finish typing this.

If you make it to Vegas, drop me an email before you go.


Donald E. L. Johnson said in August 27th, 2006 at 1:32 pm

Since I wrote, I’ve dipped into another new book, Search Engine Marketing, Inc., by Mike Moran and Bill Hunt. It has more about content optimization. Is that what you mean by content duplication?

“Overoptimizing your content. When you try to stuff keywords into every phrase, you produce stilted, unreadable copy that converts no one.” That is, it sells nothing. They warn against overoptimizing and trying to “chase the algorithm.” Both books advise, “write for people first,” SEO second.


Dave said in August 27th, 2006 at 4:01 pm


The duplicate content issue that i am referring to is not about having a high keyword density (keyword stuffing). I am referring to pages on a site that are too similar to one another, so Google discounts those pages. For example sharing similar title, meta and H1 tags across many pages.


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