Comments on: RentClicks.com Only Has Nine Pages Cached In Google http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/ The pulse of the small unit rental market. Dave Dugdale reports what he sees in the online rental market place. Dave also provides a podcast show called RadioVine which is on a separate feed from this one. Visit www.rentvine.com/anc/radiovine.cfm for the shows and feed. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:44:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: RentalHouses.com Beats Out RentClicks.com - Home Rental Blog http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-9306 RentalHouses.com Beats Out RentClicks.com - Home Rental Blog Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:50:18 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-9306 [...] this month traffic stats, we see that RentClicks.com took a big hit in traffic (due to a robots.txt file blunder) and RentalHouses.com took the #1 [...] [...] this month traffic stats, we see that RentClicks.com took a big hit in traffic (due to a robots.txt file blunder) and RentalHouses.com took the #1 [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8474 Dave Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:26:21 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8474 The reason I block the Internet Archive is for competitive reasons. With that type of history info you can study how a site grows. For instance with RentClicks you can see which markets they grew from and at what rate - to me that is a gold mine of info. As for scraping the RentClicks site - sure I studied it along with the other top sites when I first started - I would have been blind not to. But I did not copy anything from their site including images, text, or code if that is what you call scraping. Does my site look similar to RentClicks with a map in the middle of the home page sure it does, but so does many rental and real estate sites. Mr. Curious did you know that RentClicks bought their site from ScriptMate for 149 bucks and then sent their site on a CD ROM to DC from copyright protection? The reason I block the Internet Archive is for competitive reasons. With that type of history info you can study how a site grows. For instance with RentClicks you can see which markets they grew from and at what rate - to me that is a gold mine of info.

As for scraping the RentClicks site - sure I studied it along with the other top sites when I first started - I would have been blind not to.

But I did not copy anything from their site including images, text, or code if that is what you call scraping.

Does my site look similar to RentClicks with a map in the middle of the home page sure it does, but so does many rental and real estate sites.

Mr. Curious did you know that RentClicks bought their site from ScriptMate for 149 bucks and then sent their site on a CD ROM to DC from copyright protection?

]]> By: Curious http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8425 Curious Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:43:48 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8425 That's a great analysis of robots.txt and how powerful it can be. So I took a look at how a pro like you puts it out. You have this line in your robots.txt, Dave. User-agent: ia_archiver Disallow: / There is a rumor that your first site was a scrape of Rentclicks. I didn't believe it so I went to Archive.org to prove what a clean, honest hard working man in the basement you are. Now there is no proof. So, I have to ask, why would you block the Internet Archive from your site? That’s a great analysis of robots.txt and how powerful it can be. So I took a look at how a pro like you puts it out.

You have this line in your robots.txt, Dave.

User-agent: ia_archiver
Disallow: /

There is a rumor that your first site was a scrape of Rentclicks. I didn’t believe it so I went to Archive.org to prove what a clean, honest hard working man in the basement you are. Now there is no proof. So, I have to ask, why would you block the Internet Archive from your site?

]]> By: Why RentClicks.com Is Not In the Search Results Any Longer - Home Rental Blog http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8168 Why RentClicks.com Is Not In the Search Results Any Longer - Home Rental Blog Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:35:42 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8168 [...] CSI blocked the search engines spiders from retrieving their content. Update: Read more about the Google spider issue here. CSI also eliminated the “Family of Sites” package and re-branded it the [...] [...] CSI blocked the search engines spiders from retrieving their content. Update: Read more about the Google spider issue here. CSI also eliminated the “Family of Sites” package and re-branded it the [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8132 Dave Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:09:41 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8132 Jeb, I was there at that session as well at SMX, I gotta think that no one from CSI was there or they wouldn't have blocked the spiders from RentClicks. I will have to disagree with you on HomeAway.com. Here is a test, type in "Vacation rentals" into Google - notice that only two of HomeAway's sites appear in the top 10 - before they purchased the top 10 vacation rental sites, all 10 used to be in the top 10. Google seems to only allow 2 sites from the same company in the top 10. RentalHouses.com has not changed their WhoIs information which I feel is <strong>cheating the system</strong>. I am guessing that Robert Massey sold them his site but leases the domain name back to them for 1 year until he is cut loose like the RentClicks owners were. Jeb,

I was there at that session as well at SMX, I gotta think that no one from CSI was there or they wouldn’t have blocked the spiders from RentClicks.

I will have to disagree with you on HomeAway.com.

Here is a test, type in “Vacation rentals” into Google - notice that only two of HomeAway’s sites appear in the top 10 - before they purchased the top 10 vacation rental sites, all 10 used to be in the top 10. Google seems to only allow 2 sites from the same company in the top 10.

RentalHouses.com has not changed their WhoIs information which I feel is cheating the system. I am guessing that Robert Massey sold them his site but leases the domain name back to them for 1 year until he is cut loose like the RentClicks owners were.

]]> By: Jeb http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8127 Jeb Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:22:24 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8127 I'm not sure I agree that having multiple sites is necessarily impossible. In the vacation rental space, HomeAway.com has been doing almost the exact same thing for the past 3 years. If you pay for sites based on their cash flow driven by organic traffic, almost by necessity you have to keep them running. What RentClicks is doing makes no sense to me unless they are going to put in place a bunch of 301 Redirects from Rentclicks.com to the counterpart pages Rentals.com. But you don't block Google and hope they find your content on your new site... you have a very controlled transition using well-timed changes to sitemaps and 301's as described by the pros at SMX Advanced. If there wasn't an embargo on discussing specifics of that session, I'd say more. ;-) I’m not sure I agree that having multiple sites is necessarily impossible. In the vacation rental space, HomeAway.com has been doing almost the exact same thing for the past 3 years.

If you pay for sites based on their cash flow driven by organic traffic, almost by necessity you have to keep them running.

What RentClicks is doing makes no sense to me unless they are going to put in place a bunch of 301 Redirects from Rentclicks.com to the counterpart pages Rentals.com. But you don’t block Google and hope they find your content on your new site… you have a very controlled transition using well-timed changes to sitemaps and 301’s as described by the pros at SMX Advanced. If there wasn’t an embargo on discussing specifics of that session, I’d say more. ;-)

]]> By: Mr. Rental http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8121 Mr. Rental Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:14:17 +0000 http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/rentclickscom-only-has-nine-pages-cached-in-google/#comment-8121 This should be an early warning sign for what a mess things are about to become. It is pretty obvious that there is no business plan and managing all these sites is almost impossible. How you let your search ranking drop on google the main search engine is mind blowing especially when you have already been "black listed" off yahoo. This should be an early warning sign for what a mess things are about to become. It is pretty obvious that there is no business plan and managing all these sites is almost impossible. How you let your search ranking drop on google the main search engine is mind blowing especially when you have already been “black listed” off yahoo.

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