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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo Email 451 and 421 Frustration</title>
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	<description>The pulse of the small unit rental market. Dave Dugdale reports what he sees in the online rental market place. Dave also provides a podcast show called RadioVine which is on a separate feed from this one. Visit www.rentvine.com/anc/radiovine.cfm for the shows and feed.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36825</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I did was answer all their questions they had me answer in an email they sent me and waited a few weeks and then they sent me the quote I have above.

No domainkeys at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I did was answer all their questions they had me answer in an email they sent me and waited a few weeks and then they sent me the quote I have above.</p>
<p>No domainkeys at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lang</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36824</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you do? I am still getting alot of questions about why Yahoo is blocking them.

It seems more that anything that DomainKeys was or is still broken and returning false &quot;fail&quot; results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did you do? I am still getting alot of questions about why Yahoo is blocking them.</p>
<p>It seems more that anything that DomainKeys was or is still broken and returning false &#8220;fail&#8221; results.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36708</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Yahoo loves me again! No Yahoo emails caught in the spool this morning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Yahoo loves me again! No Yahoo emails caught in the spool this morning!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36705</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: Just got an email from Yahoo:



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We have reviewed the IP information you have provided and made the appropriate changes in our database. As a result, the recent deferrals you have referenced in your report should now be resolved.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Cross my fingers that the spool doesn&#039;t fill up tomorrow with Yahoo addresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Just got an email from Yahoo:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We have reviewed the IP information you have provided and made the appropriate changes in our database. As a result, the recent deferrals you have referenced in your report should now be resolved.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Cross my fingers that the spool doesn&#8217;t fill up tomorrow with Yahoo addresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36669</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past day or so I am now seeing a new error message:

&quot;temporarily deferred due to user complaints - 4.16.56.1&quot;

I sent Yahoo another email about this issue but I have not heard back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past day or so I am now seeing a new error message:</p>
<p>&#8220;temporarily deferred due to user complaints &#8211; 4.16.56.1&#8243;</p>
<p>I sent Yahoo another email about this issue but I have not heard back.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36650</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No word yet from the SmarterMail people if they will give me the SM5 release.

It appears that about 75% of my emails do make it to Yahoo. Still frustrating knowing that 25% of the Yahoo folks can&#039;t receive email from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No word yet from the SmarterMail people if they will give me the SM5 release.</p>
<p>It appears that about 75% of my emails do make it to Yahoo. Still frustrating knowing that 25% of the Yahoo folks can&#8217;t receive email from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36582</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I found out the SmarterMail rel. 5 has domain keys and DKIM built in to it, so I am seeing if I can get that installed first.

Thanks for the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I found out the SmarterMail rel. 5 has domain keys and DKIM built in to it, so I am seeing if I can get that installed first.</p>
<p>Thanks for the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lang</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36581</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you removed the private key from the MTA did you also remove the public from DNS?

If you left either in DNS then you are coming up as misconfigured and will never pass.

Try just using DK in a test mail and try just DKIM.

Also they will not whitelist you without DomainKeys in place in some form.

I only asked you to remove them to see if the two conflict.

You need to have one in place.

Try one, then the other. Be sure to remove the public key from DNS. If you leave the key in DNS but do not send the private key in the email header you will fail authentication.

You probably know this but I want to check on it first. Also call Crystal Tech, their DNS guys know more about this than both of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you removed the private key from the MTA did you also remove the public from DNS?</p>
<p>If you left either in DNS then you are coming up as misconfigured and will never pass.</p>
<p>Try just using DK in a test mail and try just DKIM.</p>
<p>Also they will not whitelist you without DomainKeys in place in some form.</p>
<p>I only asked you to remove them to see if the two conflict.</p>
<p>You need to have one in place.</p>
<p>Try one, then the other. Be sure to remove the public key from DNS. If you leave the key in DNS but do not send the private key in the email header you will fail authentication.</p>
<p>You probably know this but I want to check on it first. Also call Crystal Tech, their DNS guys know more about this than both of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dugdale</title>
		<link>http://www.rentvine.com/blog/index.php/yahoo-email-451-and-421-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-36578</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Dugdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that my Yahoo test email is giving me false positives.

It appears that I am still having issues getting any mail to Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that my Yahoo test email is giving me false positives.</p>
<p>It appears that I am still having issues getting any mail to Yahoo.</p>
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